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		<title>By: P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What is open statecraft?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to e-participation and open data, there is a third aspect of open government, introduced here by Philipp [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw on the discussion about definitions of public (e)participation see also: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.intellitics.com/blog/2010/07/22/what-is-public-participation-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.intellitics.com/blog/2010/07/22/what...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw on the discussion about definitions of public (e)participation see also: <a href="http://www.intellitics.com/blog/2010/07/22/what-is-public-participation-2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.intellitics.com/blog/2010/07/22/what&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does (electronic) participation in general - broadly speaking - include e-voting, yes. But the term &quot;e-participation&quot; in its narrow definition however, is mostly referring to things like participatory budgeting, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://fixmystreet.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fixmystreet.com&lt;/a&gt;, applications where participation by the/a public is possible in problem-solving or policy formulation/prioritization dimensions, rather than direct democracy. In the end, it&#039;s of course the definition of e-participation one choses, but also, direct democracy does not make government more open or collaborative. if &quot;participation&quot; is reduced to saying yes or no to something pre-defined, you end up with a proposition jungle like in California, maybe. In my view, the interesting thing about e-participation is how the public can participate in governance in a constructive, collaborative way, independent from the modes of decision making.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does (electronic) participation in general &#8211; broadly speaking &#8211; include e-voting, yes. But the term &#8220;e-participation&#8221; in its narrow definition however, is mostly referring to things like participatory budgeting, or <a href="http://fixmystreet.com" rel="nofollow">fixmystreet.com</a>, applications where participation by the/a public is possible in problem-solving or policy formulation/prioritization dimensions, rather than direct democracy. In the end, it&#39;s of course the definition of e-participation one choses, but also, direct democracy does not make government more open or collaborative. if &#8220;participation&#8221; is reduced to saying yes or no to something pre-defined, you end up with a proposition jungle like in California, maybe. In my view, the interesting thing about e-participation is how the public can participate in governance in a constructive, collaborative way, independent from the modes of decision making&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Philipp Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philipp Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the difference is not in kind, but in scale. The transaction costs of having dinner in a French village are fairly high for me (I live in Munich). With peer-to-peer media suddenly chatting with my french friends at night, working together, or doing politics becomes possible... and that change in scale transforms collective action qualitatively...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the difference is not in kind, but in scale. The transaction costs of having dinner in a French village are fairly high for me (I live in Munich). With peer-to-peer media suddenly chatting with my french friends at night, working together, or doing politics becomes possible&#8230; and that change in scale transforms collective action qualitatively&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Philipp Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philipp Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree! :)</description>
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		<title>By: Philipp Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philipp Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear William, I see your point much more clearly now! Thank you!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I personally have much less faith in the power of voting as the main/core/fundamental (whatever-metaphor-we-want-to-use) mode of ensuring a just, fair, and functioning society. Maybe because I am German and we did vote the Nazi party into power. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Therefore, I focus on trying to understand how different political mechanisms (right metaphor?) are impacted by peer-to-peer media and digitization, however, I do believe the job you do, by thinking through one aspect (voting) and then pushing this in the public discourse is very valuable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear William, I see your point much more clearly now! Thank you!</p>
<p>I personally have much less faith in the power of voting as the main/core/fundamental (whatever-metaphor-we-want-to-use) mode of ensuring a just, fair, and functioning society. Maybe because I am German and we did vote the Nazi party into power. </p>
<p>Therefore, I focus on trying to understand how different political mechanisms (right metaphor?) are impacted by peer-to-peer media and digitization, however, I do believe the job you do, by thinking through one aspect (voting) and then pushing this in the public discourse is very valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: Philipp Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philipp Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angelica, I agree that we should re-read Popper (I actually made that point a few years ago in this blog...), but for slightly different reasons: his focus on the &quot;here-and-now&quot; on piece-meal social engineering becomes an important reminder of what can go wrong if we put our sights on very long term objectives and by aspiring to do &quot;Utopian social engineering&quot; we slip into totalitarianisms... (more on this in a future entry).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angelica, I agree that we should re-read Popper (I actually made that point a few years ago in this blog&#8230;), but for slightly different reasons: his focus on the &#8220;here-and-now&#8221; on piece-meal social engineering becomes an important reminder of what can go wrong if we put our sights on very long term objectives and by aspiring to do &#8220;Utopian social engineering&#8221; we slip into totalitarianisms&#8230; (more on this in a future entry).</p>
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		<title>By: William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Only if we offer a perspective that involves the power politics taking place in any institutional setting, can we realistically discuss and implement Open Government as a new form of collective action.”  Philipp&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi All!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terrific discussion!  E-technology is forcing a complete re-conceptualization of the political system.  What potential does the new technology implicate for the way government operates, and how it relates to its citizens?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Philipp’s idea for a new open statecraft model is sure to stimulate interesting debate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sebastian and I seem to be at opposite poles.  I don’t see how “open statecraft” can be fully realized in a vacuum.  He writes, “by including e-voting as a form of direct democracy into e-participation, we would be having a completely different debate. &lt;br&gt;e-participation as practiced in most places has nothing to do with direct democracy.” &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I disagree.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If one of the primary intentions of e-participation is to empower, and therefore de-alienate, the people governed, then the citizenry must not only be involved in a “problem solving capacity,” but must have actual “decision making authority” by the power to elect their representatives.  Unless those representatives are directly beholden to their constituents for the offices they hold, those representatives will be significantly disconnected from their constituents.  For example, in the US our elected officials are directly connected with their principle campaign contributors, and only indirectly connected with their electorate.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How can the ideal of open statecraft ever be realized in this political environment?  The legislative and administrative cultures in the US are oriented towards servicing the contributing class much more so than serving the public interest.  Just look at the recent health care debate, and the legislation that resulted.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As to the “managerial aspects” of government, which is Phillip’s main concern in the essay, the agenda of management is oriented by the existing power structure.  As long as elites control the choice of elected officials, the management of government will be oriented towards servicing their interests.  In the US, for example, the regulation of the financial industry is stricter under Democratic Party administrations than under Republican Party administrations.  The IRS under Bush was reputed to be tougher on middle class folks and kinder to the wealthy, than it was under Clinton.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Managers take their cues from elected officials, who owe their offices a) to their campaign contributors, and b) to their electorate.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Indeed, the process of “value creation” in any political system is going to be largely, if not wholly, dependent upon who puts officials in office.  If the king’s power depends on the military’s enforcement, then all values will be oriented to the interests of the generals before the interests of the people.  If the election system is dependent upon the campaign contributions of “fat cats,” as it is in the US, then the value orientation of public policy will be what the fat cats want it to be. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Much of “social networking” in the US is simply busy-ness, which gives the illusion of e-participation and open value creation, but which has little actual policy effect.  For Open Value Chains to be the actual cause of policy, and not merely manufactured illusions, elected officials must be directly dependent upon the electorate for their positions, and not indirectly dependent, as in the US.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Internet voting, properly organized, can neutralize the power of the contributing class and place all elected officials directly dependent upon the electorate.  That would cause an earthquake of a shift in value creation.  Openness can only be fully realized when the locus of power is in the people; for, that is when the government has nothing to hide.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;wjk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Only if we offer a perspective that involves the power politics taking place in any institutional setting, can we realistically discuss and implement Open Government as a new form of collective action.”  Philipp</p>
<p>Hi All!</p>
<p>Terrific discussion!  E-technology is forcing a complete re-conceptualization of the political system.  What potential does the new technology implicate for the way government operates, and how it relates to its citizens?  </p>
<p>Philipp’s idea for a new open statecraft model is sure to stimulate interesting debate.</p>
<p>Sebastian and I seem to be at opposite poles.  I don’t see how “open statecraft” can be fully realized in a vacuum.  He writes, “by including e-voting as a form of direct democracy into e-participation, we would be having a completely different debate. <br />e-participation as practiced in most places has nothing to do with direct democracy.” </p>
<p>I disagree.</p>
<p>If one of the primary intentions of e-participation is to empower, and therefore de-alienate, the people governed, then the citizenry must not only be involved in a “problem solving capacity,” but must have actual “decision making authority” by the power to elect their representatives.  Unless those representatives are directly beholden to their constituents for the offices they hold, those representatives will be significantly disconnected from their constituents.  For example, in the US our elected officials are directly connected with their principle campaign contributors, and only indirectly connected with their electorate.   </p>
<p>How can the ideal of open statecraft ever be realized in this political environment?  The legislative and administrative cultures in the US are oriented towards servicing the contributing class much more so than serving the public interest.  Just look at the recent health care debate, and the legislation that resulted.</p>
<p>As to the “managerial aspects” of government, which is Phillip’s main concern in the essay, the agenda of management is oriented by the existing power structure.  As long as elites control the choice of elected officials, the management of government will be oriented towards servicing their interests.  In the US, for example, the regulation of the financial industry is stricter under Democratic Party administrations than under Republican Party administrations.  The IRS under Bush was reputed to be tougher on middle class folks and kinder to the wealthy, than it was under Clinton.</p>
<p>Managers take their cues from elected officials, who owe their offices a) to their campaign contributors, and b) to their electorate.  </p>
<p>Indeed, the process of “value creation” in any political system is going to be largely, if not wholly, dependent upon who puts officials in office.  If the king’s power depends on the military’s enforcement, then all values will be oriented to the interests of the generals before the interests of the people.  If the election system is dependent upon the campaign contributions of “fat cats,” as it is in the US, then the value orientation of public policy will be what the fat cats want it to be. </p>
<p>Much of “social networking” in the US is simply busy-ness, which gives the illusion of e-participation and open value creation, but which has little actual policy effect.  For Open Value Chains to be the actual cause of policy, and not merely manufactured illusions, elected officials must be directly dependent upon the electorate for their positions, and not indirectly dependent, as in the US.</p>
<p>Internet voting, properly organized, can neutralize the power of the contributing class and place all elected officials directly dependent upon the electorate.  That would cause an earthquake of a shift in value creation.  Openness can only be fully realized when the locus of power is in the people; for, that is when the government has nothing to hide.</p>
<p>wjk</p>
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		<title>By: Angelica Laurencon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelica Laurencon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should all re-read &quot;The Open Society and Its Enemies&quot;  written more than sixty year ago, because the thesis of Karl Popper (together with Friedrich Hayek &quot;The Road to Serfdom&quot; ) fit exactly with this trend to a brave new world of transparency. It could be perfect ... really brave&lt;br&gt; But all these fine visions of open source for open communities let aside the very human desir of individual power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all re-read &#8220;The Open Society and Its Enemies&#8221;  written more than sixty year ago, because the thesis of Karl Popper (together with Friedrich Hayek &#8220;The Road to Serfdom&#8221; ) fit exactly with this trend to a brave new world of transparency. It could be perfect &#8230; really brave<br /> But all these fine visions of open source for open communities let aside the very human desir of individual power.</p>
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		<title>By: Regula Staempfli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regula Staempfli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why macchiavelli again at the end of this very interesting article (compliments!)? otherwise: self-interests are never the only motivation, people like to share for a common good - despite being told that this is against their nature... look at a french table full of food and passing strangers - the food is immediately shared (sometimes the strangers too:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why macchiavelli again at the end of this very interesting article (compliments!)? otherwise: self-interests are never the only motivation, people like to share for a common good &#8211; despite being told that this is against their nature&#8230; look at a french table full of food and passing strangers &#8211; the food is immediately shared (sometimes the strangers too:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by including e-voting as a form of direct democracy into e-participation, we would be having a completely different debate. e-participation as practiced in most places has nothing to do with direct democracy. e-participation practices delegate problem solving capacity rather than decision making authority. I don&#039;t dispute that voting is a form of political participation, but whether you do it at the polling station or on the internet, it does not change existing practices. In fact, electronic voting booths are already a form of e-voting, and for transparency they need to produce a paper trail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by including e-voting as a form of direct democracy into e-participation, we would be having a completely different debate. e-participation as practiced in most places has nothing to do with direct democracy. e-participation practices delegate problem solving capacity rather than decision making authority. I don&#39;t dispute that voting is a form of political participation, but whether you do it at the polling station or on the internet, it does not change existing practices. In fact, electronic voting booths are already a form of e-voting, and for transparency they need to produce a paper trail.</p>
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		<title>By: Violetta Pleshakova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Violetta Pleshakova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post Philipp, I think it outlines an important aspect of open government being an ideology in its nature. Do you view open government as an ideology, a doctrine of its own kind?&lt;br&gt;what is needed is the operational logic, the practical aspect of openness and citizen participation. Open statecraft can address the need to incorporate managerial views alongside with highlighting the strategic and political meaning of open government ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post Philipp, I think it outlines an important aspect of open government being an ideology in its nature. Do you view open government as an ideology, a doctrine of its own kind?<br />what is needed is the operational logic, the practical aspect of openness and citizen participation. Open statecraft can address the need to incorporate managerial views alongside with highlighting the strategic and political meaning of open government ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have shown how Internet voting in the US can be organized to make elected officials directly dependent upon the voters.  The power of Big Money can be neutralized in this process.  That would change the legislative and administrative cultures dramatically in favor of the common person.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;can&#039;t say it all here, but check it out at &lt;a href=&quot;http://ssrn.com/author=1053589&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ssrn.com/author=1053589&lt;/a&gt; and&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://internetvotingforall.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://internetvotingforall.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have shown how Internet voting in the US can be organized to make elected officials directly dependent upon the voters.  The power of Big Money can be neutralized in this process.  That would change the legislative and administrative cultures dramatically in favor of the common person.</p>
<p>can&#39;t say it all here, but check it out at <a href="http://ssrn.com/author=1053589" rel="nofollow">http://ssrn.com/author=1053589</a> and<br /><a href="http://internetvotingforall.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://internetvotingforall.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the old &quot;digital divide&quot; problem carries the same weight in the US now that it did in the 90s.  In 2004 the Michigan Democratic Party offered an Internet voting option.  Candidates took lap tops to house-bound supports, kiosks were set up in union halls.  In Estonia, cell phone voting is increasing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But expanding broadband in the US would make e-gov easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think the old &#8220;digital divide&#8221; problem carries the same weight in the US now that it did in the 90s.  In 2004 the Michigan Democratic Party offered an Internet voting option.  Candidates took lap tops to house-bound supports, kiosks were set up in union halls.  In Estonia, cell phone voting is increasing.</p>
<p>But expanding broadband in the US would make e-gov easier.</p>
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		<title>By: William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Internet voting as a form of E-Participation?  Trials in the US, Canada, and Europe have been conducted without security breaches.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Internet voting as a form of E-Participation?  Trials in the US, Canada, and Europe have been conducted without security breaches.</p>
<p>William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan W. Silberberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan W. Silberberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting philosophy. I would like to see it in operation. But I fear that something like this would not be approved by most Governments as they may see it as tying their hands in ways that we as citizens may not anticipate. That being said, this conversation also touches on the Digital Divide and the accessibility to information that presents. Tie these two together and it becomes ever more of a powerful argument  for providing basic, broad access to information. Nice post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting philosophy. I would like to see it in operation. But I fear that something like this would not be approved by most Governments as they may see it as tying their hands in ways that we as citizens may not anticipate. That being said, this conversation also touches on the Digital Divide and the accessibility to information that presents. Tie these two together and it becomes ever more of a powerful argument  for providing basic, broad access to information. Nice post!</p>
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		<title>By: Philipp Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philipp Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. Thank you!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. I really love your idea of thinking open government as a constitutive principle of our society - you must write a blog-entry for me on that! The &quot;man and women are created equal&quot; analogy is powerful. However, we are still far away from even the consensus that such a principle should apply and we will have to give up several constitutive principles that have become dear to us (e.g. territorial sovereignty or representative democracy as we know it, privacy as we know it, administrative discretion, etc.). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. In this entry, I focus on open statecraft as the managerial aspect of open government, in a way as a perspective and approach for those who want to create open value chains. I think you add a more comprehensive approach to open gov as a set of shared core beliefs that needs to be fleshed out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. Thank you!!!</p>
<p>1. I really love your idea of thinking open government as a constitutive principle of our society &#8211; you must write a blog-entry for me on that! The &#8220;man and women are created equal&#8221; analogy is powerful. However, we are still far away from even the consensus that such a principle should apply and we will have to give up several constitutive principles that have become dear to us (e.g. territorial sovereignty or representative democracy as we know it, privacy as we know it, administrative discretion, etc.). </p>
<p>2. In this entry, I focus on open statecraft as the managerial aspect of open government, in a way as a perspective and approach for those who want to create open value chains. I think you add a more comprehensive approach to open gov as a set of shared core beliefs that needs to be fleshed out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>possibly, but honestly I am fairly convinced that e-participation&#039;s conceptual focus on administrative rather than legislative participation is a fairly accepted/standard definition, or should I say contemporary feature of e-participation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>possibly, but honestly I am fairly convinced that e-participation&#39;s conceptual focus on administrative rather than legislative participation is a fairly accepted/standard definition, or should I say contemporary feature of e-participation</p>
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		<title>By: Philipp Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philipp Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed! I just took a standard definition of e-participation, because that was not what I wanted to focus on in this article, but I really like your argument! Worthy of a blog-entry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed! I just took a standard definition of e-participation, because that was not what I wanted to focus on in this article, but I really like your argument! Worthy of a blog-entry?</p>
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		<title>By: Dieter Hofmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dieter Hofmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common sense says that the powers that be have to give up some power in order to make participation meaningful. Michael Kopatz writes, that public administrations can only be cititzen orientated, when they are permeable internally. Therefore one has to develop methods that convey unmistakeably - internally as well as externally - that the participative process is not only for the gallery, but is meant to produce relevant outcomes, shaping future decicions. Public employees have to be encouraged, to take their cititzen&#039;s concerns  serious an act upon them. Leadership should only then engage in participative processes when it is prepeared to cease at least some power and control over the decision making process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://deposit.ddb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?idn=981647049&amp;dok_var=d1&amp;dok_ext=pdf&amp;f&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://deposit.ddb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?idn=98164...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;ilename=981647049.pdf&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tom Steinberg originally expected more direct democracy through the internet tools he developed. Yet it turned out, that the representative democratic system seems to improve due to the new communication channels, enlarged transparency and accountability.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J7EKYWQLRU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J7EKYWQLRU&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common sense says that the powers that be have to give up some power in order to make participation meaningful. Michael Kopatz writes, that public administrations can only be cititzen orientated, when they are permeable internally. Therefore one has to develop methods that convey unmistakeably &#8211; internally as well as externally &#8211; that the participative process is not only for the gallery, but is meant to produce relevant outcomes, shaping future decicions. Public employees have to be encouraged, to take their cititzen&#39;s concerns  serious an act upon them. Leadership should only then engage in participative processes when it is prepeared to cease at least some power and control over the decision making process.</p>
<p><a href="http://deposit.ddb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?idn=981647049&#038;dok_var=d1&#038;dok_ext=pdf&#038;f" rel="nofollow">http://deposit.ddb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?idn=98164&#8230;</a><br />ilename=981647049.pdf</p>
<p>Tom Steinberg originally expected more direct democracy through the internet tools he developed. Yet it turned out, that the representative democratic system seems to improve due to the new communication channels, enlarged transparency and accountability.<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J7EKYWQLRU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J7EKYWQLRU</a></p>
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